Saturday, July 31, 2010

Article Rewrite

I excluded the bit about DVD-Audio not being delivered digitally due to concerns about digital copying. I've never seen any hard evidence that the music business insisted on this, so I consider that speculation. If someone wants to add that bit of text somewhere and cite a definitive source, feel free. I have always read that the reason DVD-A can't be delivered digitally is that the digital output of a DVD player simply can't handle the bandwidth required to send six channels of high-resolution audio down a digital line.
I excluded the bit about Blu-ray and HD-DVD possibly making DVD-Audio obselete. These two new formats have only been discussed in terms of video, not in terms of music. If someone has a definitive source that offers evidence to the contrary, feel free to add it.
I think I settled the problems with the 24-bit->16-bit wording.
I welcome any comments. Cheers! --Analogdemon (talk) 16:49, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I think it's a very good rewrite.. thanks for doing it. Rhobite 18:58, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Good, man, we're getting close. Concerning digital bitrate, I'm really dubious about this, since digital audio transmission can be generic digital transmission. Change the underlying hardware and you'll get 10 Gbps (DVD-Audio has 0.014 Gbps maximum). Actually the whole "Receiver interface" section should be rewritten (it's interesting to state that the 6 chanel analog is the proposed standard and that contrasts with Meridian implementation and also to remove the "proposed standard single output" remark). The "cite sources" tag is still relevant (in the whole text); don't remove it. The CPPM section should be rephrased too, because it seems that exists both the "digital method" and the "fully digital method". Thanks for the help. --Hdante 19:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the article should be more fully sourced, but it does cite some references, particularly in the CPPM section. If you insist on placing tags on the article, could you please limit yourself to one tag, and make sure to point out specific facts which you believe need to be cited? Thanks.
Re: specific criticisms. I'm no expert on high-end audio, but it appears that manufacturers have made proprietary digital links between their DVD-A players and receivers.. for instance Pioneer Elite players can talk to certain Pioneer receivers via FireWire aka iLink. See [1]. The Pioneer player also has 6 channel analog outputs. Rhobite 19:37, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I would argue that the existence of these proprietary links tends to validate what I've read about DVD-Audio having too much bandwidth for a normal single digital output on a DVD player. If bandwidth wasn't an issue, it would seem to me that companies such as Pioneer would have reason to invest money in research and development of proprietary firewire links. Just my $0.02. --Analogdemon (talk) 20:06, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Not really. USB 2.0 is able to support the required bitrate. It's called proprietary just because it's not part of the DVD-Audio standard (and probably because the company has introduced "intelectual property securing" mechanisms). I would be nice if you cited sources about bandwidth. --Hdante 20:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Analogdemon, check out the link that Rhobite sent. The proprietary link is used for vendor lock-in. --Hdante 20:30, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
My only quam with this article would be with the exclusion of Analog being the best for source material considering that is what digital is trying get back to without the "generational loss". --Guppusmaximus 09:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

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